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05-24-2003, 10:23 AM
Secrets Of German Medieval Swordsmanship: Sigmund Ringeck's Commentaries On Johannes Liechtenauer's Verse translated & interpreted by Christian Henry Tobler. 2001, Chivalry Bookshelf. ISBN: 1891448072
A translation into English of.. Okay, let me explain this (it's detailed)...
15th century German Master of Arms Johannes Liechtenauer set down in writing his theories of combat. Now, he did this in verse. Both to confuse outsiders of his school's styles and to help students of his school.
After publication of Liechtenauer's verses, another German Master Of Arms named Sigmund Ringeck made interpetive commentaries of the verse and also wrote examples of the techniques.
Christian Henry Tobler has not only translated Liechtenauer's verses and Ringeck's commentaries into English, but he has provided commentaries of his own and (more importantly) black & white photographs of people in period costume and period armor demonstrating the techniques.
Sorry for the length, but as I said, it is detailed. Any confusion is the fault of this reviewer.
Chapters deal with long sword, sword/buckler, wrestling, foot combat in armor, & mounted combat.
Mr. Tobler's commentaries and photos are excellent and very clear to the reader.
This book provides a wealth of information for the historical European martial artist, the historian, and fantasy gamers who need an education as to what sword combat is/is not.
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"A Sword For Show, But A Broadaxe For Dough." -
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05-24-2003, 01:58 PM
Is there any polearm work in the book?
"O thou most magnanimous Hero! Brave and unutterably Bold Don Quixote de la Mancha! What Language shall I employ to convince Posterity of the Truth of this thy more than human Enterprize! What Praises can be coined, and Elogies invented, that will not be outvied by thy superior Merit, though Hyperbolies were piled on Hyperbolies!"
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05-24-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Alex B.
Is there any polearm work in the book?
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Yes.
"Chapter 33: Combat with Spear" Two armored opponents, each with a spear.
"Chapter 34: Sword against Spear" One armored opponent has a spear. The other armored opponent has a long sword.
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05-26-2003, 10:06 PM
A superb book. The texts (all three writers) are as clear as can be hoped for, given that the original intent of the verses was to keep information only to those in the know, and hide it from everyone else.
The production values are excellent. The photography is of high quality, and well printed - so you can reasonably see what the interpreters are doing.
This book is a milestone, invaluable as an example of how to do such a book, as well as for the insights into German medieval combat techniques.
NEM. PERV.T QUI N.N LEG.CERT.RIT
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08-05-2004, 06:16 AM
I would just like to add my recommendation of this book to people new to WMA.
The stances and methods are very clearly explained with excellent photographs to accompany them.
I picked up this book with only experience in Kendo, and was able to follow everything in it clearly. Certainly one of the best written 'instructional' martial arts books I've encountered.
If you have some swordplay experience, and want to taste WMA, this is an excellent book.
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08-28-2004, 09:44 PM
very nice book. In my opinion there are way too many defense first styles out there and it's nice to see a master who took a different route.
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08-28-2004, 10:31 PM
Excellent book. I even got my wife to start training with me! 
I didn't know she was an Otter Princess when I married her! Although, her small, laughing eyes and love of shellfish should have betrayed her true nature.
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01-29-2005, 12:22 AM
Is it a side-by-side translation, with both the orignal German and the English translation shown, or does it have just the tanslation?
Does it cover all of the Lichtenauer an Ringeck texts that have survived, or is it abridged?
Thank you in advance for any answers.
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01-29-2005, 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by JakeVanDam Is it a side-by-side translation, with both the orignal German and the English translation shown, or does it have just the tanslation?
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No
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Does it cover all of the Lichtenauer an Ringeck texts that have survived, or is it abridged?
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Yes, it includes all of Sigmund Ringeck's text. However, Lichtenauer's verses appear in other texts as well. This book only includes what appears in Ringeck's text.
"O thou most magnanimous Hero! Brave and unutterably Bold Don Quixote de la Mancha! What Language shall I employ to convince Posterity of the Truth of this thy more than human Enterprize! What Praises can be coined, and Elogies invented, that will not be outvied by thy superior Merit, though Hyperbolies were piled on Hyperbolies!"
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06-05-2005, 03:07 PM
i would recommend David Lindholm's book soley for the sake of comparison. it is good to compare the two books to find errors or different spins on the whole thing. also, i believe Lindholm has footwork diagrams.
Lindholm's Book
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06-06-2005, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by M. Phillips
i would recommend David Lindholm's book soley for the sake of comparison. it is good to compare the two books to find errors or different spins on the whole thing. also, i believe Lindholm has footwork diagrams.
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Hello M. Phillips and welcome to SFI.
Would you be willing to post a review of Mr. Lindholm's book?
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