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Thumbs up Review of the Paul chen Bushido katana - 03-01-2002, 08:54 PM

Hello Ladies and Gents,

What a beauty,

The hada is very visable and looks outstanding,(it looks like ayasugi hada). The hamon looks very much like the juzuba style. The furniture is also better than I had thought it would be. The ito wrap is not as tight as would be desired but is fairly tight, alittle movement of the kashira is noticable.

The blade is very well done with an almost perfect flat surface which is rare on production swords forged by hammer.

I did a comparison of the Bushido katana alongside of my Bugei Bamboo and there were a few differences.

1. There is very little (if any) swell of the Kasane at the kissaki on the Bushido. The yakote is pronounce and you can feel it.

2. It is knowticably thinner than the Bugei. My Bugie Bamboo is 8.5mm at the habaki as compared to 7mm on the Bushido.

3. The crossection of the blade is diamond paterned (Muromachi period style), which is nice and is very well done which makes it alittle harder to measure without calipers. I cannot beleive how uniformly flat this blade is for a production katana forged by hand.

4. The tsuka does have that squarish feeling due to the same strips used instead of a full wrap of the ray skin. This is the area that I will have totally replaced, Handle, ito, and same. I cannot compare the tsuka with my Bugei since the Bugei has a full custom tsuka and fuchi-kashira.
Over all it is pretty nice/well done and would not warrent custom work at all. The fuchi-kashira are very attractive as is the tsuba. The Shitodomé are very nice but don't have a very tight fit on the kashira, They will be replaced. Bugei tsukas are the same square feeling with strips of same.

5. The saya is outstanding and I have no complaints and will deffinately not replace it.

6. The tsuka was very tight and I now have two bruised hands removing it, which is a good thing. The nakago is very clean with the traditional cross filing lines and nicely signed by the factory. It looks way better than the tangs on the earlier models review by SFI magazine back in March of 1999. for me to describe it is to refer you to the old forums review of the Tiger wakazashi posted by Kmark, he has alot of pics of the tang which is the same as mine, other than it being shorter due to it being the shoto or wakazashi.

I cannot beleive I got such a nice brandnew peice for only $550.00 compared to what it retails for, even on sale.

I have little experience with tamishagiri so I will not pretend to know how good it might cut, but I do know that it is more stout than the PK, which I have heard, cuts pretty darn nicely.

The new high end Paul Chen katanas are truely very nice and well constucted. I will deffinately not look down on them at all.

This post in no way represents any other swords made by Hanwei besides the high end folded katana they sale. I have heard of dissapointments of some of their lower range swords but I cannot comment on them, since I own none of them.

If anyone is interested in buying a chen sword that wants any more details, just send me an e-mail and I will obligue.

I am very happy with this sword and I can recommend it to others. It recieves the Hillster five smiles review

If I had a digicamera, I would post pics. I will post pics in a few days when I can borrow the camera at work.

Many of you know already what I just described, I just thought mabye some of the newer forumites would like to know, if they were thinking of buying one of the folded Paul Chen katana from CAS Iberia.

Now back to swinging it at my own shadow

Lon

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02-12-2003, 07:13 PM

I am very happy to find a reveiw of one of the Chen folded series Katana’s. I have been looking at them for a little while now, but I wanted to see some third person input before I decided to buy. Does anyone, by the by, have any technical information of the blade? Particularly how many times are they folded?
Also, does anybody have any information about the ASSAB-K120C powder steel? I've been all over the web and asked on a couple of other forums, Knowone seems to know.

Thanks very much,

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02-18-2003, 03:32 PM

I should have one of those waiting for me at home today! I am very pleased to hear such a good review.

I can't comment on the steel other to say that it is much better (should be more homogenous) than the non-folded series steels which I believe is still recycled Chinese rail steel. Not that it is bad mind you, those are fine blades for the money.


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02-20-2003, 05:31 PM

Well sure enough it came. What a beauty! I don't want to hijack the thread here but I will post a couple pictures and say that I highly recommend it. I will be getting the matching Wak and maybe Tanto in the future too after seeing this.

I will try to get some better shots to post here. It is tough photographing these!
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Nice Shot! - 03-06-2003, 04:52 PM

Now THAT'S how to photograph a hada!


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I have 2 Paul Chen Folded Steel Katanas are both are high quality swords. I have a Bushido and a Tiger. You really can't go wrong buying a Paul Chen Folded Steel Katana.
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Re: Nice Shot! - 03-10-2003, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by Bill Clement
Now THAT'S how to photograph a hada!
You're kidding right? It looks much better in person.


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Thumbs up Re: Re: Nice Shot! - 03-11-2003, 05:16 AM

No, really. A great close-up that details the hada. I am awaiting delivery of my first folded blade, an Orchid, and unfortunately the seller had to borrow an inferior camera and has little experience with digital pics, so I have been frustrated trying to get a feel for what I will be receiving. It's not for his lack of trying though.

It's sheer agony having to wait seemingly forever for that blade I've been obsessing over!!!


Originally posted by CE Stone


You're kidding right? It looks much better in person.


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03-11-2003, 07:44 PM

Here is alittle different angle of a Bushido hada. Maybe not as good as CE Stones, but here it is anyway.
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Nice shot! - 03-13-2003, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by Jim Ankerson
Here is alittle different angle of a Bushido hada. Maybe not as good as CE Stones, but here it is anyway.
Another nice picture of a hamon.
I notice that there appear to be small "pits" in the metal. Is this just an illusion or is this normal for a folded blade? (I am currently awaiting delivery of my first folded blade - I haven't actually ever seen one!)


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Re: Another greay pic but . . . - 03-13-2003, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by Bill Clement


I'm anxiously awaiting my first folded katana, and have never actually seen one. Your picture seems to show small "pits" in the metal. Is the picture deceiving or is this a normal characteristic of a folded sword?

That is Choji Oil that you are seeing. I left the Oil on the blade when I took that group of Photos.

Sorry for the confusion.
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03-13-2003, 01:32 PM

I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that those are small beads of oil.... in fact, my Sensei has told me if you see it bead up like that then you have a little too much, it should just be a nice smooth sheen when applied correctly.

But to each his own.... as long as you take care of it and enjoy it responsibly.

Very nice blade BTW.... I hope to get a Tiger or Shobu-zukuri from Bugei... still saving and deciding.

Best,

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Originally posted by Brian James
I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that those are small beads of oil.... in fact, my Sensei has told me if you see it bead up like that then you have a little too much, it should just be a nice smooth sheen when applied correctly.

But to each his own.... as long as you take care of it and enjoy it responsibly.

Very nice blade BTW.... I hope to get a Tiger or Shobu-zukuri from Bugei... still saving and deciding.

Best,

Brian

Yes they are beads of oil. I know I had alittle too much oil on the blade. My oil cloth was just oiled. I figure alittle too much is better than not enough.

I have a Paul Chen Tiger too and it is a really nice Katana, I don't think you can go wrong with either of your choices.
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Just fwiw about the "little beads of oil"...

Your sensei is correct -- too much oil on the blade. And it has a negative effect over time to have too much oil. The oil will get absorbed by the wood inside the saya. The more oil the wood absorbs the more it will attract and trap particulates like dust, etc. Also, the wood will expand a bit over time. Really overoiled blades over the years will sometimes start to bind especially near the tip where the oil will gather. And anything got into the saya that area will start to scratch up the blade.

So you can end up with a saya that no longer fits (and is a bear to repair) and a blade with scratches.

Lightly coat the blade with oil. Wipe it down afterwards too to make sure its just the lightest of sheens. One small complaint I have about the mineral oil in the Chen cleaning kits is that its a bit heavier than traditional oil. Mineral oil comes in a lot of different grades. Choji from Japan is usually a much lighter mineral oil with a drop or two of clove for scent. If you're really serious about taking care of your Japanese style sword, drop a few bucks and get a good custom kit from Japan. Bugei sells, them, Fred Lohman sells them, ECMAS might (I'm not sure off the top of my head). Or just buy a large bottle of choji. That'll last you a lifetime and you'll get the light oil and the nice scent...

And use it sparingly. No beading...
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Here is a much better photo of the Hada without the oil and under differnt light.
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03-17-2003, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Keith Larman
Just fwiw about the "little beads of oil"...

Your sensei is correct -- too much oil on the blade. And it has a negative effect over time to have too much oil. The oil will get absorbed by the wood inside the saya. The more oil the wood absorbs the more it will attract and trap particulates like dust, etc. Also, the wood will expand a bit over time. Really overoiled blades over the years will sometimes start to bind especially near the tip where the oil will gather. And anything got into the saya that area will start to scratch up the blade.

So you can end up with a saya that no longer fits (and is a bear to repair) and a blade with scratches.

Lightly coat the blade with oil. Wipe it down afterwards too to make sure its just the lightest of sheens. One small complaint I have about the mineral oil in the Chen cleaning kits is that its a bit heavier than traditional oil. Mineral oil comes in a lot of different grades. Choji from Japan is usually a much lighter mineral oil with a drop or two of clove for scent. If you're really serious about taking care of your Japanese style sword, drop a few bucks and get a good custom kit from Japan. Bugei sells, them, Fred Lohman sells them, ECMAS might (I'm not sure off the top of my head). Or just buy a large bottle of choji. That'll last you a lifetime and you'll get the light oil and the nice scent...

And use it sparingly. No beading...

Keith,

Yes Thank You.

I have already started wiping the excess off the blades of my Katanas. I did buy a large bottle of choji so as you said I don't think I will be buying any for along time.

Jim
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