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Three Year Warranty -
10-20-2004, 11:08 AM
Thinking about the difference between the Western sword market and the Japanese sword market, I commented today to my principle how the Japanese sword market differed from the Western in that a blade that takes a set isn't considered returnable.
Strange that.....
Over five years of making swords now, I have replaced 5 blades that took a set cutting plywood. It happens even to the best in abusive and semi-abusive circumstances........
Talking it over, we decided that since our target market is users of Japanese style swords, and JSA practitioners and students, that we'd try a different approach.
We're going to warrant the blades from breaking or taking a set under normal use for three years........
"Normal use".......
Cutting bricks, concrete, steel bars, and the like not applicable under normal use.......
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One upsmanship -
10-20-2004, 11:26 AM
AT, you are one uping. This warranty is fantastic  Joe |
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10-20-2004, 11:28 AM
Geez, Gus...now I can't chop down that 400-year old Redwood in my backyard. You're no fun...
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10-20-2004, 11:47 AM
How about the bullet test? I didn't see bullets in your list...
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10-20-2004, 11:49 AM
How about cleaving cardoors? Or phoneposts...
Great initiative though, although I hardly believe that this warranty will be "used" often. 
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Re: One upsmanship -
10-20-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Joe Pittman
AT, you are one uping. This warranty is fantastic Joe
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One upping what?
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I don't think that there is anyone in the niche we're after, so its hard to "one up" when there's no one else there...... |
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You are right -
10-20-2004, 02:39 PM
Just a silly joke at my age G. Joe
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Re: You are right -
10-20-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Joe Pittman
Just a silly joke at my age G. Joe
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Yeah, me too....
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The warranty isn't a joke though........ |
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Re: Three Year Warranty -
10-20-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Angus Trim
Thinking about the difference between the Western sword market and the Japanese sword market, I commented today to my principle how the Japanese sword market differed from the Western in that a blade that takes a set isn't considered returnable.
Strange that.....
Over five years of making swords now, I have replaced 5 blades that took a set cutting plywood. It happens even to the best in abusive and semi-abusive circumstances........
Talking it over, we decided that since our target market is users of Japanese style swords, and JSA practitioners and students, that we'd try a different approach.
We're going to warrant the blades from breaking or taking a set under normal use for three years........
"Normal use".......
Cutting bricks, concrete, steel bars, and the like not applicable under normal use.......
*g*
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Have you a projected time when you are hoping to have these Katanas on sale Mr Trim?
I have heard of several exciting new things happening, I think 2005 is going to be a year of great change in the market
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Re: Three Year Warranty -
10-20-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Angus Trim
We're going to warrant the blades from breaking or taking a set under normal use for three years........
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How much for and "extended" warranty?
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10-20-2004, 04:06 PM
So steel helmets on posts are abusive?  Heck, I've still not been able to disfigure any of my AT's dispite hacking a boatload of pool noodles and plastic bottles. Guess I'll have to try harder. |
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10-20-2004, 05:26 PM
I think this is a really great idea.
Reading over all the AT Kat threads, it is obvious your intention is to make the most solid 'user' katana you can. I think backing up words with a warranty like this is just superb. Suddenly a $1500 sword doesn't need to be seen as 'too good for use' by poor folk like me; if they take it to the Dojo and it takes a set during practice, they are no worse off (save time spent in the mail).
This really is a perfect way to ensure your swords get used. Not to mention it makes an excellent incentive for a newer enthusist to move up from his or her 'beater' to something more authentic handling.
I think Bilal is absolutely right, between this news, Tinker's news, and the stuff John was talking about a few months back, 2005 should be a truely amazing year for sword lovers.
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Re: Re: Three Year Warranty -
10-20-2004, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Bilal B
Have you a projected time when you are hoping to have these Katanas on sale Mr Trim?
I have heard of several exciting new things happening, I think 2005 is going to be a year of great change in the market
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Its kinda funny being in a shop where a new project is being finished up. Walk over to the back wall, and there's 7 kat blades of 3 different models over there.... in various states of assembly.
Depending on website stuff, the first two weeks of November..... |
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10-20-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Matthew Krull
I think this is a really great idea.
Reading over all the AT Kat threads, it is obvious your intention is to make the most solid 'user' katana you can. I think backing up words with a warranty like this is just superb. Suddenly a $1500 sword doesn't need to be seen as 'too good for use' by poor folk like me; if they take it to the Dojo and it takes a set during practice, they are no worse off (save time spent in the mail).
This really is a perfect way to ensure your swords get used. Not to mention it makes an excellent incentive for a newer enthusist to move up from his or her 'beater' to something more authentic handling.
I think Bilal is absolutely right, between this news, Tinker's news, and the stuff John was talking about a few months back, 2005 should be a truely amazing year for sword lovers.
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Funny all the stuff you have to get right..... The tang when copied from an antique continues the sori of the blade, and this means that the tsuka will have that curve too. There's a kat in semi-finish state over on the far bench, with tsuka and saya in place, and it all curves and flows well together.......
Yes, tough hardnosed user swords. But with many of the aesthetic and "feel" things that an accurate kat should have. The only real thing missing being hamon and hada........
Frankly I'd be surprised if the warranty is used that often.....
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Re: Three Year Warranty -
10-21-2004, 05:42 AM
[/B][/QUOTE] We're going to warrant the blades from breaking or taking a set under normal use for three years........
"Normal use".......
Cutting bricks, concrete, steel bars, and the like not applicable under normal use.......
*g*
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Hey Gus how about cutting machine gun barrels ? we all know that thats what the katana was designed for... 
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Re: Three Year Warranty -
10-21-2004, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by Angus Trim
*snip*
We're going to warrant the blades from breaking or taking a set under normal use for three years........
"Normal use".......
Cutting bricks, concrete, steel bars, and the like not applicable under normal use.......
*g*
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Sounds like a great warranty.
Not even a "catch" in there like "3 years, or 30,000 cuts, whichever comes first", along with a requirement that the number of cuts have to be documented.
And one of these days, I'm gonna have to draw up a list of all the things a sword is not meant to cut.... Cars, utility poles, and gun barrels are gonna be right up at the top of the list.
BTW.... Cabbages wearing steel helmets are also a no-no.
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Re: Re: Three Year Warranty -
10-21-2004, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Jamie C.
BTW.... Cabbages wearing steel helmets are also a no-no.
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Only if you're striking the helmet....*g*
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10-21-2004, 10:28 AM
Wow, Gus!!! a 3 year warranty???? Wow, 2005 IS gonna be a great year!
Watch out, wary-wara.....Here we all come!
oh wait, I guess that means we gotta buy the Kats first...
I hear the wara shaking in their boots!
(oops, I mean "shaking on their cutting stand pegs....") *g*
The wait!..........aaaagh....you're killin' us, Gus! (rubbing hands together in glinty-eyed glee)
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10-22-2004, 07:11 AM
This is a reasonable warrantee. When a blade takes a set from cutting plywood or 2x2's or pine boards it is not surprizing. It sucks having to replace a blade or refund after a sword was abused in this way. Your warrantee would shy folks aways from this kind of cutting abuse, but still allows for you to fully make use of the sword for it's intended purpose. Wish I'ld a thought of it.
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