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What/Who the heck is this "Brego"...? -
02-06-2003, 02:09 PM
Alright, who/what is this "Brego" horse that Aragorn seems to be "saved" by after falling into the river?
And what happened to "Hasufel", the horse he's given by Éomer (and which is who he's riding in the book)...? Legolas and Gimli seem to still be riding "Arod" throughout the rest of the movie...
And wasn't "Brego" actually the son of Éorl the Young, and the builder of Meduseld...?
Is "Brego" supposed to be some kind of "spirit" horse that saves Aragorn? because he's not wearing a saddle when Aragorn mounts him at the river-side...
I'm lost...
Jesse
P.S. sorry if I'm messing-up or missing something here from the books - I can't turn to them right at the moment - I'm at work, they're at home...
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02-06-2003, 02:17 PM
And, this isn't helping me here either...
so, this isn't "Hasufel" then...?
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02-06-2003, 02:22 PM
little bit of a close-up...
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02-06-2003, 09:02 PM
Brego another of those movie only characters (horsewise anyway). I think you have correctly identified the real Brego from the books.
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Re: What/Who the heck is this "Brego"...? -
02-07-2003, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by Jesse Zinn
Alright, who/what is this "Brego" horse that Aragorn seems to be "saved" by after falling into the river?
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This whole episode bothered me more than anything else in the movie. It is so unnecessary, and it's so tacky; even people who have never read the book are gonna know that Aragorn isn't dead so there's no suspense even for them.
The only reason it was there IMO is to increase the "Éowyn loves Aragorn" subplot, which was pretty heavy-handed already. Oh, Golly, Aragorn is missing! What will she do? Oh, he's dead! See how sad she is! Look! He isn't dead after all!
I love these films, but I felt like I was being treated like a five year old for that entire portion of TTT. |
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02-07-2003, 06:57 AM
This must truly be a magical horse indeed--related to the "Horse of a Different Color" from the Wizard of Oz. This is the horse that I noted on a differenct thread as having a brown nose when it picked up Aragorn at the river's edge and a white nose when it gets to Helm's Deep. A chameleon horse?
I agree that the whole sequence feels forced and unnecessary. At the rate he was washed downstream, I doubt that his horse would have known where to find him. Especially a horse that he just got from Eomer with no emotional ties. He could have just as easily had a dream when at Helm's Deep and accomplished the same Arwen sequence. I guess it was also an excuse for Aragorn to come across the army from Isengard so he could break the "bad news" to Theoden.
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02-07-2003, 08:37 AM
Did anyone notice that when Eomer whistled for the horses when he gave them to Aragorn and company that they came without being led? I thought that was pretty cool....
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02-07-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Gabriel Stevens
Did anyone notice that when Eomer whistled for the horses when he gave them to Aragorn and company that they came without being led? I thought that was pretty cool....
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I didn't notice that until the second time I saw TTT, and yes it is pretty cool that they know their names too! Maybe Rohan horses are smarter than average and COULD find Aragorn.
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02-07-2003, 10:21 AM
i've seen horses come by name, or whistle. Once you live in Rabun County you can see horses doing anything.
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02-07-2003, 06:32 PM
Brego is something that PJ added, then later cut out. That's why it seems to make no sense. But if you read the book of the movie...
Brego was an old warhorse. When the Rohan people are preparing to march to Helm's Deep, Aragorn looks at Brego and says to turn him loose, 'He has already seen too many battles.'
Thus, later, the old horse that Aragorn saved comes back to save him, blah blah blah, and Aesop can sue PJ for ripping off Androcles and the Lion. *grin*
(Thus, too, the difference between Brego and Hasufel)
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02-07-2003, 08:47 PM
If this is so, perhaps something of it will be explained in the extended DVD version (I assume there will be one  )
At which point I own up to having the action figure set of Aragorn and Brego - trotting action! Cutting action! Wheee...
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02-08-2003, 10:00 AM
Can anyone imagine there isn't going to be an extended DVD version?
The whole "Aragorn nearly drowns" sequence is doubly annoying because many other scenes from the book were omitted, yet there is time made for this unnecessary addition. I, for one, would like to have seen some of the "Uruk-Hai" chapter put in, to show the nature of the orcs, and their differences.
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02-08-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Felix Wang
The whole "Aragorn nearly drowns" sequence is doubly annoying because many other scenes from the book were omitted, yet there is time made for this unnecessary addition. I, for one, would like to have seen some of the "Uruk-Hai" chapter put in, to show the nature of the orcs, and their differences.
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agreed...
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02-08-2003, 02:51 PM
Did nobody think it was an echo of Isildur's more unfortunate river floating end?
That was what I thought of it - it didn't bother me, although I wasn't sure how necessary the Warg attack really was.
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02-08-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by K. Wright
Did nobody think it was an echo of Isildur's more unfortunate river floating end?
That was what I thought of it - it didn't bother me, although I wasn't sure how necessary the Warg attack really was.
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Well, since they left the wargs entirely out of FOTR, they probably felt obliged to stick them in somewhere.
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02-08-2003, 05:59 PM
Brego might only be an old horse, but he's a helluva kisser!
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02-10-2003, 08:39 AM
The "Aragorn dies" scene is not only tacky, but trite. It didn't even have the virtue of originality. To stick this in and not flesh out other parts of the plot is indeed annoying.
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